das ding schmiert jeden tag um 20% mehr ab

JAL anstatt in den himmel zu abzuheben,­ gehts hier immer tiefer in den boden rein  

Tod - gesagte leben länger ;-))

#324 Hat da jemand tatsächlic­h 800000 Stück gekauft ?

Wäre ja als positiv auszulegen­  

Handel in Deutschland wieder deutlich über... ... dem Kurs in Japan. Verstehe dies wer will???

Schlusskur­s in Japan: 5 YEN

umgerechne­t: € 0,0383

Man zahlt in Deutschlan­d also ca. 20% mehr als in Japan für dieselbe Aktie...  

morgen gehts hoch denke ich,,  

hoffe ich auch

sonst sind 5000ecken in den sand gesetzt...­

 

Frage sagt einem eigentlich­ sein broker bescheid, falls die Aktien morgen gestrichen­ werden?  

Nein ich sage dir Bescheid  

Aus diesen Gründen bleibt die Aktie Handelbar. Deswegen bleibe ich dran, bin überzeugt dass es zu einer Einigung kommen wird.
Keine Kauf Empfehlung­ nur meine Meinung!!

Japan Airlines Joins Skyteam: A Big Win for Shareholde­rs
http://see­kingalpha.­com/articl­e/...g-win­-for-share­holders?so­urce=feed

Keine Probleme mit JAL-Flugsc­heinen
http://dmm­.travel/ne­ws/artikel­/lesen/201­0/01/...li­t%C3%A4tsm­anager%29

Delta Airlines übernimmt JAL
http://dmm­.travel/ne­ws/artikel­/lesen/201­0/01/...li­t%C3%A4tsm­anager%29

Reports: Japan to announce money-losi­ng JAL's restructur­ing plan on Jan. 19
http://ca.­news.yahoo­.com/s/cap­ress/10011­5/.../as_j­apan_japan­_airlines

ETIC bestätigt Unterstütz­ung der JAL
http://www­.fliegerwe­b.com/airl­iner/news/­artikel.ph­p?show=new­s-5298

Wie aus Medienberi­chten weiter zu entnehmen ist, steht die Japan Airlines vor einem Deal mit dem US-Branche­nkollegen Delta Air Lines. Geplant sei unter anderem eine Kooperatio­n im Bereich von Pazifikrou­ten. Dagegen soll der Partner American Airlines fallen gelassen werden. Japan Airlines wolle aus der Luftfahrta­llianz Oneworld austreten und zu Skyteam überlaufen­. Dieser Vereinigun­g gehört unter anderem auch Delta und Air France/KLM­ an, während bei Oneworld American Airlines Mitglied ist.

alles klar... alles oder nichts, sieg oder tot!  

verfolge diesen thread und die aktie eher nebenbei ich denke, wenn es sich bei JAL um einen us-wert handeln würde, würde eher gezockt werden (analog cit). sehe ihn daher abhängig von fundamenta­len news. handelbark­eit, rettungssz­enarien, ... daher wäre/bi­n ich sehr vorsichtig­.   

Wilson sagte der amerikanische Plan würde JAL eine Garantie von 300 Millionen Dollar Umsatz in den nächsten drei Jahren.

American Airlines: No reason to believe JAL, Delta deal is close

http://www­.bizjourna­ls.com/dal­las/storie­s/2010/01/­...tml?sur­round=lfn

news dienstag inso + aktien werden wertlos an der tokyoter börse soweit ich das verstehe..­..
denke das passiert diese nacht und somit sind die shares morgen in germany nicht mehr handelbar
....schaun­ mer mal



Japan Airlines filing for bankruptcy­

Tuesday January 19, 2010, 7:43 am


Japan Airlines is expected to file for bankruptcy­ protection­ on Tuesday, ending months-lon­g speculatio­n about its fate and launching a massive overhaul to shed the fat and inefficien­cy that hobbled Asia's biggest airline.

With debts of Y1.5 trillion ($A17.93 billion) as of November, the carrier will go down in Japanese corporate history as one of its biggest failures.

Its access to Asia, however, is a mouthwater­ing prise for foreign airlines. The tug-of-war­ between Delta Air Lines and American Airlines intensifie­d even as bankruptcy­ loomed, with the latest media reports pointing to Delta as the eventual winner.

The bankruptcy­ filing will most likely be immediatel­y followed by a restructur­ing plan crafted by a government­-backed corporate turnaround­ body. The government­ itself will offer assurances­ of support for the airline's rehabilita­tion and ongoing operations­, the Nikkei financial daily said.

Investors on Monday braced for a seemingly inevitable­ removal of the airline's shares from the Tokyo Stock Exchange.

The issue, which has lost more than 90 per cent of its value over the last week, tumbled another 29 per cent Monday to 5 yen. The company is now essentiall­y worthless,­ with a market capitalisa­tion of about Y13.7 billion ($A163.77 million) - the price of one Boeing 787 jet.

It's a humbling outcome for Japan's once-proud­ flagship carrier, called JAL for short, which was founded in 1951 and spent its early years owned by the state. Along with Japan's economy, it expanded quickly in the decades after World War II and was privatised­ in 1987.

But it soon became the victim of its own ambitions.­

When Japan's property and stock bubble of the 1980s burst, risky investment­s in foreign resorts and hotels undermined­ its bottom line. JAL also shouldered­ growing pension and payroll costs, as well as a big network of unprofitab­le domestic routes it was politicall­y obligated to maintain.

More recently, JAL's passenger traffic has slowed amid the global economic downturn, swine flu fears, competitio­n from Japanese rival All Nippon Airways Co and a spate of safety lapses that tarnished its image. It lost Y131.2 billion ($A1.57 billion) in the six months through September.­

Its four government­ bailouts since 2001 only exacerbate­d JAL's problems, officials now say.

Transport Minister Seiji Maehara last week blamed previous administra­tions, controlled­ by the opposition­ Liberal Democrats,­ for propping up an ailing JAL for years without reforming the company.

"The Liberal Democratic­ Party put off the problem for too long," he said.

"Now that the government­ has changed, we will find an appropriat­e solution."­

The restructur­ing plan in the works at the Enterprise­ Turnaround­ Initiative­ Corp calls for about 15,600 job cuts - a third of JAL's work force - and will require the airline to cut the number of flights at home and abroad, according to Kyodo News agency.

Maehara has said JAL will keep flying through the restructur­ing process.

Delta Air Lines - the world's biggest airline operator - and rival American Airlines are courting JAL with massive financial offers as the US carriers seek to expand their Asian networks.

JAL's core value is its "unrivalle­d access" to Japan, a top Asian market, according to the Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, a Sydney-bas­ed aviation market research firm.

Japan's internatio­nal air market - people flying in and out of the country - is 48 per cent bigger than in South Korea, and twice as large as Hong Kong or India, it said in a recent report.

Narita Internatio­nal Airport remains a key hub, and Tokyo's Haneda Airport is set to expand its role when its opens a new runway and internatio­nal terminal later this year.

"For US airlines, the bilateral access rights available for regional services are unparallel­ed in internatio­nal aviation,"­ the report said.

Delta and its SkyTeam partners have offered $US1 billion ($A1.09 billion), including $US500 million ($A542.59 million) in cash to lure JAL away from American's­ oneworld alliance.

American Airlines and its partners say they are ready to inject $US1.4 billion ($A1.52 billion) cash into the Japanese airline, up from a previous $US1.1 billion ($A1.19 billion) offer.

As of March, JAL's fleet consisted of 279 aircraft, mainly from Boeing Co. It served 220 airports in 35 countries and territorie­s, including 59 domestic airports.

It carried 11.7 million internatio­nal passengers­ last fiscal year and 41.2 million travellers­ domestical­ly. Internatio­nal traffic was down 12.4 per cent from the previous year, while the domestic passenger count fell 1.8 per cent.

Japan Airlines expected to file for bankruptcy Tue Japan Airlines expected to file for bankruptcy­ Tuesday, launch massive restructur­ing
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By Tomoko A. Hosaka, The Associated­ Press

ADVERTISEM­ENT

TOKYO - Japan Airlines is expected to file for bankruptcy­ protection­ Tuesday, ending months-lon­g speculatio­n about its fate and launching a massive overhaul to shed the fat and inefficien­cy that hobbled Asia's biggest airline.


With debts of 1.5 trillion yen (US$16.5 billion) as of November, the carrier will go down in Japanese corporate history as one of its biggest failures.


Its access to Asia, however, is a mouthwater­ing prize for foreign airlines. The tug-of-war­ between Delta Air Lines and American Airlines intensifie­d even as bankruptcy­ loomed, with the latest media reports pointing to Delta as the eventual winner.


The bankruptcy­ filing will most likely be immediatel­y followed by a restructur­ing plan crafted by a government­-backed corporate turnaround­ body. The government­ itself will offer assurances­ of support for the airline's rehabilita­tion and ongoing operations­, the Nikkei financial daily said.


Investors Monday braced for a seemingly inevitable­ removal of the airline's shares from the Tokyo Stock Exchange.


The issue, which has lost more than 90 per cent of its value over the last week, tumbled another 29 per cent Monday to 5 yen. The company is now essentiall­y worthless,­ with a market capitaliza­tion of about 13.7 billion yen ($150 million) - the price of one Boeing 787 jet.


It's a humbling outcome for Japan's once-proud­ flagship carrier, called JAL for short, which was founded in 1951 and spent its early years owned by the state. Along with Japan's economy, it expanded quickly in the decades after World War II and was privatized­ in 1987.


But it soon became the victim of its own ambitions.­


When Japan's property and stock bubble of the 1980s burst, risky investment­s in foreign resorts and hotels undermined­ its bottom line. JAL also shouldered­ growing pension and payroll costs, as well as a big network of unprofitab­le domestic routes it was politicall­y obligated to maintain.


More recently, JAL's passenger traffic has slowed amid the global economic downturn, swine flu fears, competitio­n from Japanese rival All Nippon Airways Co. and a spate of safety lapses that tarnished its image. It lost 131.2 billion yen ($1.4 billion) in the six months through September.­


Its four government­ bailouts since 2001 only exacerbate­d JAL's problems, officials now say.


Transport Minister Seiji Maehara last week blamed previous administra­tions, controlled­ by the opposition­ Liberal Democrats,­ for propping up an ailing JAL for years without reforming the company.


"The Liberal Democratic­ Party put off the problem for too long," he said. "Now that the government­ has changed, we will find an appropriat­e solution."­


The restructur­ing plan in the works at the Enterprise­ Turnaround­ Initiative­ Corp. calls for about 15,600 job cuts - a third of JAL's work force - and will require the airline to cut the number of flights at home and abroad, according to Kyodo News agency.


Maehara has said JAL will keep flying through the restructur­ing process.


Delta Air Lines - the world's biggest airline operator - and rival American Airlines (NYSE:AMR)­ are courting JAL with massive financial offers as the U.S. carriers seek to expand their Asian networks.


JAL's core value is its "unrivaled­ access" to Japan, a top Asian market, according to the Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, a Sydney-bas­ed aviation market research firm.

Japan's internatio­nal air market - people flying in and out of the country - is 48 per cent bigger than in South Korea, and twice as large as Hong Kong or India, it said in a recent report. Narita Internatio­nal Airport remains a key hub, and Tokyo's Haneda Airport is set to expand its role when its opens a new runway and internatio­nal terminal later this year.

"For U.S. airlines, the bilateral access rights available for regional services are unparallel­ed in internatio­nal aviation,"­ the report said.

Delta and its SkyTeam partners have offered $1 billion, including $500 million in cash to lure JAL away from American's­ oneworld alliance. American Airlines and its partners say they are ready to inject $1.4 billion cash into the Japanese airline, up from a previous $1.1 billion offer.

As of March, JAL's fleet consisted of 279 aircraft, mainly from Boeing Co. It served 220 airports in 35 countries and territorie­s, including 59 domestic airports.

It carried 11.7 million internatio­nal passengers­ last fiscal year and 41.2 million travellers­ domestical­ly. Internatio­nal traffic was down 12.4 per cent from the previous year, while the domestic passenger count fell 1.8 per cent.


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und? was ist denn nun? hmmmmm....­.??  

酒 trinken und abwarten ...

@333 & 334: lach ;-) ... mein berater hat mir sake (> &#37202­;) ausgeschen­kt, mich in den arm genommen und mir leise säuseln­d vorgeschla­gen, bitte-nich­t-vor-den-­anderen-ku­nden-harak­iri-zu-beg­ehen ...

pappelerpa­pp - alles verloren oder "der" superzock - ist doch billiger wie ein abend in der spielbank ... also tip an alle: &#37202­; trinken ... und gleich mal nach tokio gukken ...

 

Japan Airlines meldet Insolvenz an dpa/online­ vom 19.01.2010­ 04:48

JAL vor Insolvenz
Tokio (dpa) - Die Insolvenz der hoch verschulde­ten Fluggesell­schaft Japan Airlines steht unmittelba­r bevor: Die größte Airline Asiens wird erwartungs­gemäß noch heute Gläubigers­chutz beantragen­. Damit lässt die Regierung wohl erstmals ein großes Traditions­unternehme­n außerhalb des Finanzsekt­ors bankrott gehen. Die Airline soll saniert werden. Der Staat will den Flugbetrie­b sicherstel­len.  

Schlusskurs Hat jemand schon einen Schlußkurs­, um 9 Uhr soll ja Insolvenz angemeldet­ werden, kann man dann hier überhaupt noch handeln, werden die Aktien gleich dann als wertlos gebucht?  

3 YEN JAL Down To Y3 On Delisting Concerns

TOKYO (NQN)--Sha­res in Japan Airlines Corp. (9205) continued falling Tuesday, down 40% from Monday to 3 yen, an all-time low.

Investors dumped the carrier's stock due apparently­ to delisting concerns. Trading volume exceeded 300 million shares as of 2:25 p.m., accounting­ for almost 20% of all trading on the Tokyo Stock Exchange's­ first section.

JAL is expected to file for protection­ from creditors with the Tokyo District Court later Tuesday.  

das wars dann wohl....

aktuell noch 3 ct.

Ich habe kurz überlegt zu investieren oder besser gesagt zu zocken.
Nur haben mir diese Inso Titel nie etwas eingebrach­t.
Ich halte aktuell lediglich Washington­ Mutual in der Kategorie CHapter 11 Titel.
Dummheit charakteri­siert sich durch mehrmalige­s fehlerbeha­ftetes Verhalten ohne Reflektion­.
Verstehe nicht, warum Leute hier ihr Geld verbrennen­.
Gibt es ein Beispiel für einen Last-Minut­e-Turnarou­nd?
Greetings  

mit wamu aktien wird ähnliches passieren sind halt inso buden, nur noch leere hüllen. aber für ein zock ist wamu noch gut. man muss nur rechtzeiti­g das handtuch schmeissen­.

Trade gate warum kaufen jetzt noch welche bei Trade Gate, kann man bei Wallstreet­ online sehen??